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Old 11-06-2016, 11:39 PM
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Re: Field report: Pham Hung Street, Binh Chanh

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Originally Posted by TomMAffolter View Post
NO i dont get teh special price, i just pay the normal price, i paid the normal price when i first arrived here speaking zero vietnamese, it the same stupid excuses by those who cant bargain, then when u go to pham hung in time they will see all these carrot chop foreigners and next thing it will be 400k as well because they think "really cheap" gladly pay 50-100k difference

I went back and read you post history and i saw that you were a active contributor on the AC thread as such ill try not tpo be my usual abrasive condoscending norm, but this is the problem with your recent posts
1. You were clearly told that the price was 200k ALL-in, there is no ambiguity as to his meaning, you then ask him if the girl then asked for a further tip as you pay 200+200 at NPK, this choice of language would indicate you found it unbelieveable thus you thought he had made a mistake, so please dont try and weasel out of it by saying you just saying its really cheap.
2. You were told that the normal price that 100's of people pay myself included and foreigners i bring to NPK pay 300k, and ratehr than accept that price and try to adhere to that pricing, i mean its not that bloody hard, rather than handing over 400k u hand over 300k and act like you have always been paying that price, but no you have to make some exuse that you galdly pay a extra 50-100k to save the diffuculty of haggling...wow hand over 300k and shut up and act like its normal thats such a hassle/. I dont know who would be stupid enough to knowingly pay a extra 33% for exactly the same service, or if you are saying you can easily afford 50-100k then let me ASSURE you EVERYONE even the 18yr old reading this can afford 50-100k. The issue is why would you galdly pay more for exactly the same service. Thats pure foolishness..
3 You then talk abt paying 50usd guiding fees, not sure where that came from, but let me give you a lesson on economics, thats 50usd converts to 1mill dong, now if you gladly over pay 100k, and this over paying leads to a price increase of 100k for me also, then its a MERE 10 visits before that 1mill has been eroded by your overpaying, now given that i go to hottocs 2-3 times a week, then in a mere 3 weeks, whatever gains i made through you would be dissipated from you spoil maket attiitde, so it would be utter economic stupidity for anyone to agree to take you around.
4 The fact that you are attraacted to his posts abt 200k bbbj is the fact that you are budget conscious, but you cannot even develope mental discipline to protects your own future playground, someone has taken the time to correct you on the proper price but instead of acknowledging that, you want to go and defend you own carrot chopness.
5 If you werent such a newbie you would have realised that the location he is referring to is quite far from d1, probably 100k by taxi, to and for thats already 200k so its not much of a saving over NPK, the shops are spread out so its not like NPK where u can enter one and if not to your likeing you can try another, there are about 3-4 spread over 1km. There are also normal ie no bbbj hottoc , within that area. So really if you want to try this area you would need to ride a bike. Now even if you ride a bike how will you know which shop has pretty girls are you willing to go into each shop, maybe the shop that has the pretty gal, the gal is busy will you wait till she is available.
If you read between the lines of the report, you will see that he isnt very impressed by the location, and thats probably why he has shared it, and given that the lead originally came from someone who keeps all the good finds super secret, he wont even divulge the district of his good finds fearing someone else might figure out where it is, but only shares rubbish to feed that pro sharing personae he wants to project, then its all the more reason that my post is about trying to protect this area out of some agenda of mine. My own opinion is that the girls are on par with gals found in NPK on average, the service much more amauterish, but the price is cheaper, more to thsoe who find farm fresh girls more appealing than a girl that has sucked over 1000 dicks. But overall after 3-4 exploratory vists 6-8mths ago i havent found it worth a revisit.
Finally when you go to a doctor you dont go for just teh medical knowledge as the internet or medical texbooks can provide that info, likewise when you go to a lawyer it not for knowledge of the law as legal textbooks are freely available it libraries, you go to these people because of the specialised knowledge these guys provide. Likewise if i was to go use the services of a guide, it would be because he has the knowledge of which shops has the pretty girls which one does good service, what you pay as a fee you save in transport, hassles with haggling, save time searching and more importantly knows where the quality girls are, in a mere 10 visit your would have made back you original fee.
But this is all a moot point because a guide who sees your spoil market attitude would be foolish to take you anywhere given the point 3 above, I for one have better things to do with my time than to indulge in that kind of service
Wow such a long reply n frankly i don't bother to really read all, especially things written by a guide.

Just keep all your places n prices secret if u worry prices will go up. i don't need them.
Oh i forgot, u never post locations so why need to worry in the first place?

Regarding paying, i pay what i deem fit, don't need people to tell me how much i should pay.