Originally Posted by Penguin23
Those who have read my posts will know that I was a Supreme/Empress/Zara regular, and I have been in a stable relationship with an ex-Supreme girl for the last couple of years. So I probably have some (slightly outdated) insight into how much a "typical" KTV girl earns. The numbers the chiongster quoted are probably on the high side, if you consider butterly income only but he does miss out the other sources of income.
Consider:
1. Many KTV girls cannot work a double session (HH + NH) every day, and certainly not 30 days in a month. All you need is one butterfly customer who makes you drunk, or to upset you to tears through super humsup behavior or plain unreasonableness. The prettier the girl and the cheaper the KTV, the higher these unfortunate incidences.
2. Most 2 session KTVs have a set of super hardworking girls that will work HH+NH (especially those on Holiday visa) but the huge majority who are long stayers and especially the ang pais, will only come for NH. The better girls generally wait for mummy to specify which KTV to go and which customer has booked them. They do not do butterfly, unless they are super hardworking. High-end KTVs (e.g. Lido/Tiananmen) are booking only, at $500/session but when my girl was working at these top-end places she can sometimes go 2-3 days without a customer.
3. Double-session KTVs generally only have NH on Sundays and most Viets (especially the Northern girls) will not work Sundays. If you have ever been to Hanoi, you can appreciate why this is so. Saigon is generally the same on a Sat vs Sun, but Hanoi is noticeably quiet on a Sunday
4. Getting 5 butterfly rooms every night is tough. A girl I know well, can do 9 butterfly sessions in one NH session, including 2 bookings but she admits that if she does that more than half of them will end up complaining to the Mummy and she may have to pay back some of the money collected. She also will end up super drunk and sometimes will miss out her tips because a customer du lan and just leaves without paying (very common).
5. The KTV life ages a girl very quickly, and takes a huge toll on their bodies. Most girls can't sleep at night and they end up taking a powerful relaxant which they bring in from overseas (some of them, Schedule A drugs under the CNB list). It is very common for girls to need a forced break, after a bad night of drinking. Those that get drunk every night, usually burn out pretty quickly and end up doing something else after their gastric problems become unbearable. It is very common for KTV girls to undergo upper endoscopy whenever they go back to Vietnam, simply because of persistent stomach pains. Continuous drinking and late nights plus persistent suppers also wreaks havoc on a girl's menses and many need to take it easy for at least one week every month.
6. Most girls consider their own safety as priority no 1, not money. Every girl is deathly afraid of being caught in a raid and being "sent back". On average my girl encounters a raid once a week, sometime more. During a raid, the girls generally run (unless they are already SPR, or a "house girl") and no tips will be collected that night.
7. A big part of a KTV girl's income doesn't come from butterfly, but from bookings or short-time/long-time. Bookings are generally easier on the girl unless the customer ends up wanting hum sup or set out to make the girl completely drunk.
8. You need to consider the cost side of things to get a better picture. A "freedom pass" S-pass or WP costs around $3000 per month, Rent can be $500 for a bunk bed to $1500/2000 up for apartment share, cosmetics and food costs are roughly $2000/month and transport + mobile phone costs another $1000.
So a girl needs to net $5000-$6000 a month before she can send even her first dollar home. Yes, an outstanding KTV girl can net $40knett and more but that is not every month. A hardworking girl can earn $20K probably, anything higher than that is possible but super-tiring. My girl was ex-Supreme/Zara and ex-Lido so I understand both the mid-tier segments and the premium KTVs. The top-tier KTV is extremely competitive. No matter how pretty you are, there will always be a younger batch of girls waiting to take over, and you certainly will not get a booking every night.
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