[DonCJ]

Sorry to disillusion you (again), but Men In Pain is part of kink.com and they are purely a video operation in San Francisco, they expanded from hogtied.com, and they are NOT affiliated with ANY SM House.

Do not confuse what happens in porn videos with what happens in real BDSM play.

Furthermore, you vastly oversimplify the SM world. Neither western SM Houses nor independent pro Dommes in the West are monolithic in regard to their policies. "No sex" is a legal stance, and the rule is often proven in the breach. The Scene is UK and Europe is more sexual in general than in USA, but again, there are exceptions. Ahdnin Australia/New Zealand, other ethics apply. This is also true in Thailand. I know you think Thai women are not worth your time, so you say over and over, but, fortunately most people do not agree with you.